Comments on: The falsehood at the heart of the trans movement https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement The magazine of freethought, open enquiry and irreverence Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:00:05 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Jolyon Wagg https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-213 Thu, 05 Oct 2023 16:37:57 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-213 In reply to Alastair Naughton.

“Tyranny”! I love the measured, sensible tone with which those who deny the existence of trans people communicate! Tell me: are you one of tens of thousands of people whose extreme, dedicated concern for women’s rights vanishes into absolutely nothing when it comes to *actual* threats to women’s rights, such as CIS-male partner violence? Do you remain utterly silent about the defunding of women’s refuges and the shortfall in women’s healthcare spending? Or does your massive and sincere concern for women’s welfare literally only ever emerge when there are trans people to bash?

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By: Caleb Murdock https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-210 Sun, 27 Aug 2023 02:14:08 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-210 I just read this article for the second time. Eliza’s clarity of thought and insight are always impressive.

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By: Blackcur-rants https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-206 Fri, 28 Jul 2023 19:23:51 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-206 What the hark is wrong with you!?

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By: Carol Fleetwood https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-205 Wed, 12 Jul 2023 18:58:44 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-205 I can not believe the writer of this article champions free speech while violating self determination which is at the very essence of free thought. The comments are equally distressing and obnoxious. There has been oppression not only of LGBTQ debate in this country for as long as it has been a country but a history of hate, torture and death to anyone who veers from the biblical definition of man and woman. To say that now, as this movement begins to gain national and international attention, that this very movement, which has faced so much repressed free speech and free thought, which has known nothing but a God-given duty of moral, descent, Christian-abiding communities to expunge them from humanity decreeing their immortal souls to the depts of eternal hell and damnation, is itself engaging in repression of free thought and free speech is ludicrous beyond all rational thought. There will be backlash as humanity adjusts to the new norm and perhaps this is what’s troubling for you, a new norm. There is a backlash of so called rational minds to fuel flames of resistance, doused with kerosene and lit by various authors of “well meaningful” books, psychological articles and podcasts to upend the progress being made. Unfortunately, this article is one of them. Change and progress is always most painful to those who cling to old dogma of the past. I suggest that each of you examine your own personal prejudices on this subject and take a compassionate look at those who for the first time are brave enough to speak out after those that have gone before them have been tortured, mutilated, imprisoned, killed or painfully silenced for as long as man has walked this earth. There lies your free thought, if you can stomach it.

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By: Caleb Murdock https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-203 Wed, 05 Jul 2023 07:51:17 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-203 Eliza Mondegreen is the best writer on this topic that I have found, although I also like Debbie Hayton (an English trans woman who does not seek special treatment).

Here is the “truth that dare not speak its name”: A trans woman is a man who feels like a woman, and nothing more (and vice versa for trans men). Feeling like a woman should not give him the right to enter women’s private spaces (since he is not a woman). Yes, to be polite, we should call him “she”, but that is our only obligation. Non-trans people have no obligation to swallow all the nonsensical ideas that trans people are pushing.

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By: Ellie K https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-195 Mon, 22 May 2023 14:39:18 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-195 In reply to Emma Park.

Emma Park,
I apologize! I feel embarrassed, although much reassured now. Thank you for your VERY prompt reply. I appreciate you and Freethinker. I had expressed similar sentiments in the comment I failed to locate earlier! Again, thank you for your helpful response.

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By: Emma Park https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-194 Mon, 22 May 2023 12:16:55 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-194 In reply to Ellie K.

Hi Ellie,

Your comment was in fact on the below article. It and the original post are still up there, as you will see.
https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/11/a-godless-neo-religion-interview-with-helen-joyce-on-trans-ideology-and-its-harms/#comments

We do not delete comments, unless they violate our community guidelines:
https://freethinker.co.uk/community-guidelines-for-posting-comments-and-events/

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By: Ellie K https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-193 Mon, 22 May 2023 10:04:53 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-193 Woah, censorship here?!
A recent comment disagreed with the premise of this article, and broached some related concerns. The comment was thoughtful, grammatical, and quite lengthy; someone spent time and effort in writing it. It concluded with a question as to the need for Freethinker to continue to exist. I wrote a comment in response.

Five days later, I return. I find both the original comment and mine have been removed. I’m disappointed and surprised.

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By: wokerati https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-192 Sun, 21 May 2023 19:47:12 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-192 Is this more right wing fake news ? .. shocked at the Freethinker…. will be telling everyone what I think of it…
In February 2022, the New Statesman and The Times reported on an UnHerd piece by another Guardian journalist, Hadley Freeman, in which she suggested her paper was allowing itself to be bullied over transgender issues.[15][16] Later that year, Conor Friedersdorf in The Atlantic featured an UnHerd piece by Paul Kingsnorth as “Provocation of the Week”. Kingsnorth argued that “Left-modernism is now the outlook of the professional managerial classes, the top 10% or so of society, and—not coincidentally—the beneficiary class of globalisation. … Meanwhile, a national populist movement built largely around a working- and lower-middle-class reaction to this ideology is coalescing … Why would the middle classes be further to the ‘Left’ than the workers?”[17]
In 2021, an UnHerd piece criticising the World Health Organization (WHO) for dismissing the COVID-19 lab leak theory in its investigation was marked by Facebook with a “false information” tag; Facebook apologised after UnHerd objected. Reporting the incident, the Financial Times noted that three days later the White House expressed “deep concerns” about the WHO investigation

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By: Mike https://freethinker.co.uk/2022/10/the-falsehood-at-the-heart-of-the-trans-movement/#comment-191 Sun, 21 May 2023 19:33:16 +0000 https://freethinker.co.uk/?p=6916#comment-191 Ah more Tory stuff…… Freethinker ? I think not… way too much right wing articles in the Freethinker

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